Gondolas (2 of 3)

Gilbert made 24 distinct gondolas, some of which had multiple variations, and Lionel made 14 more up through 2007.  The Upstairs Train features 13 of the Gilbert cars.  Because there are so many, I have split them up over three web pages:

Gilbert gondolas #620 through #941 are on
page 1
                        #C-2009 through #24130 and the unnumbered Buffalo Hunt Gondola are on this page 2
Lionel gondolas  #9300 through #9304 are on this page
                         #48216 and above are on
page 3

Unless otherwise specified, the large pictures on this page are of cars in the collection of The Upstairs Train, and the smaller ones are from ebay auctions I didn't win.

If you have a picture that you would like to share with the world of any of the cars not shown, email them to me: theupstairstrain@yahoo.com

Starting in 1958 Gilbert made seven 5-digit gondolas that were versions of the earlier 6xx and 9xx cars above; most have several variations.  There were also three 5-digit gondolas with new line names.

#C-2009 T&P gondola made in 1962-1964.
Gilbert also made this in dark green, painted and unpainted, but they are very rare.

#24103 N&W gondola made in 1958.

It was also made in 1963 & 1964 with Pike Master couplers.
(Photo courtesy of Mark Preman of

Two extremely rare painted versions, one black and one brown, were also made.

Unpainted #24106 Pennsylvania Railroad gondola made in 1958-1960.

A hard-to-find painted version was also made.
(Photo courtesy of Don Hasenzahl)

This #24108 Pennsylvania Railroad gondola sold on ebay in March of 2006.
It doesn't appear in any of my books.  So is it a rare car or a reproduction?  Does anybody know?

#24109 C&O gondola with plastic pipes made in 1958-1960.

#24109 C&O gondola with cardboard pipes also made in 1958-1960.
A harder-to-find version with orange cardboard pipes was also made.

#24110 Pennsylvania Railroad gondola made in 1958-1960.

#24113 D&H gondola made in 1958-1959.  It came with either 3 or 5 canisters.

#24116 Southern gondola made in 1958-1960.
(Photo courtesy of Gale Wilson.)

#24120 T&P gondola made in 1960.
(Photo courtesy of an anonymous donor)
Two rare painted versions (dark green and red) were also made.

#24124 B&M gondola made in 1963-1964 with both knuckle and Pike Master couplers.

There is a great deal of variation in the color of the cars you see on ebay.
I don't know whether it's the photography or if the cars actually varied that much.
(Photo courtesy of
Jeffrey L. Miller.)

The TM Guide says "There is also a rare dark blue painted version."
but this painted car is as light as many of the unpainted cars you see.
(Photo courtesy of
New England Toy & Train Exchange.)

Painted #24125 Bethlehem Steel gondola with rail load made in 1960.

It was also made with Pike Master couplers in 1961-1964.
(From the collection of my firend Joe Philippson)

And an unpainted version without rail load was made in 1965-1966.
(From the collection of my firend Joe Philippson)

#24126 Frisco Lines gondola made in 1961.
(Photo courtesy of an anonymous donor)

#24127 Monon gondola made in 1961-1965.

#24130 Pennsylvania Railroad unpainted gondola with Pike Master couplers made in 1960.
(Photo courtesy of an anonymous donor)

An extremely rare painted version was also made.

Unnumbered Buffalo Hunt Gondola made only in 1963 for the #20800 Game Train.
(This is a picture I took of a car in Jack Larson's collection.)

Lionel made 14 gondolas under their American Flyer name between 1980 and 2007:

#9300 Burlington gondola made in 1980.

#9301 B&O gondola made in 1981 & 1983.

#9303 Southern gondola with unpainted red canisters made in 1984.

#9304 New York Central canister gondola made in 1986.

Show me the rest of the gondolas.

Over the years, Gilbert made four different kinds of couplers, three of which are common and familiar to most American Flyer owners: link, knuckle, and Pike Master.  The fourth, the so-called "solid knuckle coupler," was short-lived and not used on very many cars.  Lionel later came up with its own version of knuckle coupler.  American Flyer has therefore gone through five
generations of couplers.  Because there seem to be a lot of people confused by this, I created a page to show the differences.  Click the picture below for more detail.

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